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Great. I am happy to see more people dropping their aprioris against collective license proposals. And yes, I do agree that it is a sign of maturity...:-) Not just the people are getting older, the debate itself... I am eager to see the conference you mention taking place. An internet forum on the subject (legal proposals for copyright) would be great as well, I don't know any. I have tried to hijack the a2k list from time to time, but it does not seem to be a good place for that.