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Amelia Andersdotter :
@Stefan: Why would we need to ”make sure” that there are no ulterior motives?

We can not make sure there are no ulterior motives, because we have no way, neither do we want it, to keep anyone from freely having the motives he wishes to select. What we can do, nonetheless, is bring some transparency and understanding into the public at large about statistical correlations which link publicly available little symptoms and small acts to some ranked list of ulterior motives, in such a way as to reward straightforwardness and transparency with trust, and scheming and obfuscation with mistrust... and enable each and everyone to personally apply sound criteria.

We put a system in place that appears to be functioning reasonably well and if ulterior motives appear we change the system.

I guess we are having a hard time being pirates and functioning as such because... it functions extremely well ;) . No kidding. Ulterior motives are more than present. What might be harder to agree to is what changes should be introduced and for what reasons... and how to get about it when those that are most likely to oppose them are those in control of key positions.

We don’t necessarily need to keep systems for 300 years like we did with copyright before we try to change them. But I believe in change and progression. Not in permanence. Sometimes change is fast, sometimes it is less fast, but the future is definitely there and even more so if we want it and make it.

Nothing changes unless some push for change... and have the necessary vision of the global situation to do NOT LESS than what is needed. We can go on NOT DOING ENOUGH forever, while having fun all the time if possible. It's easy to fool oneself and continuously being very busy doing NOT ENOUGH.